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Leaving catholicism for orthodoxy Introduction. Having been raised Catholic and Out of curiosity, how long were you Catholic before you began leaving Catholicism for Orthodoxy? Enough time to even become properly Catholic? Longer than a year? Two years? Is the trouble that the novelty of the dress up you’re seeking for your actual religion — temporal right wing politics — inevitably fades after a while? Why won’t Leaving Catholicism . I fully believe Orthodoxy has preserved ancient practice better than Catholicism, but that doesn't mean things haven't changed. " In other words I'm personally not sure it's worth leaving Oriental Orthodoxy and the Church of the East disagree more with Catholicism and have the same history with the Catholics and the EO until they left over Christology disagreements in the 4th Centurybut they also disagree with the Protestants and I doubt the problems you have with Catholicism involve the Nature of Christ. My wife, a cradle Latin Catholic, felt more welcomed and at home in the Orthodox Church. Which is literally the same type, the same kind of pastoralism that Orthodoxy does. I was torn between Catholicism and Orthodoxy (and even became Catholic initially). You’re considering leaving Protestantism for a reason - you want to follow what the original There is another category being left out: Schism. I think Catholics tend to prefer to discuss issues between Catholicism and Orthodoxy between educated scholars. After are, issues like what the Fathers This is an exchange with four people: from my old Internet discussion group (3-20-99). I /r/Catholicism is a place to present new developments in the world of Catholicism, discuss theological teachings of the Catholic Church, provide an avenue for reasonable dialogue amongst people of all beliefs, and grow in our own spirituality. It is interesting how the conflict is impacting parish life around the world. What advice can you give to someone who is considering leaving Catholicism and embracing Orthodoxy but they are having second thoughts about leaving Catholicism, stating it’s due to their belief in Of course a catholic can point to many cases of corruption in orthodoxy, and I can think of a few too, but that's not the silver bullet they think it is because whatever corruptions there may be in orthodoxy - the local patriarchal schisms, the secular States' influence in the churches, the ethnocentrism, the lack of a centralized authority Hey, I am ex-Eastern Orthodox (GoArch) and converted to Catholicism. Leaving Rome for Orthodoxy? I’d honestly prefer to make my arguments more structured and And Eastern Catholics seem more along the lines of, “yeah, the orthodox are awesome and they’re just fine being orthodox! I’m curious, do you guys think leaving Catholicism for Orthodoxy is bad? I was a Latin Catholic, went eastern, now im going Orthodox. But Orthodoxy has never felt The two national studies show the reasons for leaving the Catholic Church are deeper than simply getting bored during mass. Another friend also showed empathy and he's now a catholic, like me, after leaving "orthodoxy". Good for you, and God bless. The Roman Catholics (not Uniates) in Romania are usually ethnic Hungarians left over from the time Transylvania was a part of Hungary or ethnic Germans if any are left after WW 2 so neither of those 2 groups would be influenced by Orthodoxy to any significant extent. They should be based on where the fullness of theological and spiritual truth (in /r/Catholicism is a place to present new developments in the world of Catholicism, discuss theological teachings of the Catholic Church, provide an avenue for reasonable dialogue amongst people of all beliefs, and grow in our own spirituality. . Cultural evolutionary research has suggested that people are more No, that is not correct. The numbers are imbalanced: far more are leaving Catholicism or Orthodoxy for evangelicalism (in a broad sense, including Pentecostalism) than leaving evangelicalism for Catholicism or Orthodoxy. BY. I have become steadily more and more opposed to hierarchy and authoritarianism, so that began to chafe more and more. Another priest advised me against leaving Orthodoxy to begin with and said something along the It seems to me that, while an ocean separates catholic Christianity from Protestantism, the differences between Roman Catholicism and Orthodoxy are incredibly minute, though sometimes of great significance. either the conversion of the Orthodox to Roman Catholicism or the conversion of the Catholics to Eastern Orthodoxy. Even more so than Catholics (who they frequently shit talk). Both Catholicism and Orthodoxy take a similar approach to viewing this. I’m considering leaving the Catholic church of my birth due to its growing acceptance of homosexuality, ordained women and pedophilia. From what I've heard, one should definitely not pray the Catholic Rosary as an Orthodox Christian, there's a lot of Roman Catholic theology behind it that can be at odds with Orthodoxy. This naturally isn't going to Theological and historical reasons for leaving orthodoxy? Both Orthodoxy and Catholicism place Mary in a very high position and she becomes sort of a in between mediator between Jesus and the sinner. Add in the hyperjudgemental culture because there is no sacrament to reconcile people back to the church. Once I believed in God the truth then led me to Orthodoxy. I continue to say that his reasons for leaving Catholicism and joining Orthodoxy made no sense in the first place. They are also very proud they don't have Pope, but it's not good when every bishop acts like he is Pope indeed. What ‘Trad Caths’ are to Catholicism ‘Orthobros’ are to Orthodoxy. all these practices are alien to the Church of England and yet essential to the Gospel and therefore to Orthodoxy. catholicism and orthodoxy both worship idols and the catholics even doctored the 10 commandments! We don't worship anything but God. I found the gap between "in the I had zero intentions of ever leaving Catholicism. In fact, unlike the Catholics, Orthodoxy is really sparing about which Orthodoxy and Catholicism are united in our belief in the real presence and what that specifically means, rejecting the Lutheran and Anglican understanding wholeheartedly. While temporally the distinction between orthodoxy and eastern catholicism might seem small and unimportant, eternally you and your family have souls and they are put at stake. Many mainline Protestant denominations, and even segments of Catholicism, have pursued modernization to remain relevant. Central to the Catholic understanding of purgatory is the belief in a state of purification after death, wherein souls undergo a process of cleansing to attain the holiness necessary for Leaving Protestantism, and am considering Orthodoxy and Catholicism. Regardless of which church I end up (Catholicism or Orthodoxy) in as I grow old and my life comes to an end I will always love both church's and I will always dream of a reunification at some point From the Catholic perspective there's a lot I would not be confessing about my journey to Orthodoxy that to them they would consider the confession invalid so that is not really a good idea from that perspective. Others receive by Chrismation. Orthodoxy is deeply misogynistic, homophobic, transphobic, and frequently ethnically chauvinistic as well. I go to a RCC parish. We may be losing numbers from a top level view, but I think the mix is moving in a positive direction. Unless you are from the only part of Europe where Orthodoxy and Catholicism can be found without a walking distance, there is not much of a choice you The byzantine Catholic church was a close second with many redeeming qualities, but it wasn't enough. > **Note: This subreddit is a support forum and not a debate group and will be moderated accordingly. If you leave the Catholic Church, then you are leaving the visible means of sanctification provided by Christ. but leaving false gods and idols separate. But the But, if you believe the Orthodox Church to be the true Church and not Roman Catholicism (which I do), then its not leaving the Church. Those who do know about us frequently misunderstand us, or look at us with suspicion. There The initial question wasn't "present to me theological proof of the superiority of orthodoxy over catholicism", it was "why did you leave [over to orthodoxy]". Icons are not culturally binded. You are endangering your salvation; especially if you know the Catholic Church is the true Church and you leave it behind Leaving the Episcopal Church, but confused about where I should go from that point I think the best route for me would be to spend some time checking out Catholicism and Orthodoxy while praying for guidance but at the same time I don't want to treat my faith like mattress shopping and go from place to place checking out the best one. Have you been to both Orthodox and Catholic services yet? If not, that's step 1. Reply reply More replies More replies. For this reason, it is permissible for an Orthodox Christian to believe almost the exact same things that Catholicism teaches (and some do), but it is ALSO permissible for an Orthodox Christian to hold many beliefs that would be considered heretical in Catholicism (and most do). This is a clip of a question I asked on Reason and Theology back in 2019. Leaving catholicism for orthodoxy. The Cultural Vacuum. " Also, don’t make a decision on your status as a Catholic based on the practice of other Catholics; that’s a sure path to leaving and abandoning just go non-denom. Please stop perpetuating slander. And Judaism actually lumps both pairs, bringing the number down to 9, and instead splitting "I am the LORD your Young men leaving traditional churches for ‘masculine’ Orthodox Christianity in droves By . Since the Orthodox are not in union with Rome, we cannot fufill our days of obligation at their churches. No matter what your belief now, or if you have no belief at all. To be completely honest, the possibility of leaving my I converted from Eastern Orthodoxy to Catholicism shortly after Pope Francis was elected. As a Catholic, what matters the most is following Christ. 1) I doubt many Catholic traditionalists are ready to take such a step or to adopt such preposterous notions of ecclesiastical history. 1. (The pieces that do discuss Catholics leaving the church are typically more focused on the general decline in numbers experienced by most churches in the contemporary west. But catholicism still scares me: the idea of the church being ruled by a priest-emperor who can do And unlike Catholicism, Orthodoxy isn’t something you simply join after a few classes; it demands a radical shift in daily life, with strict fasting disciplines, a structured prayer rule, and an expectation of humility rather than theological debate. This was a huge sticking point for my DH in his process of leaving Catholicism, exploring religion, coming back to Christianity, and then eventually deciding to join the Church. In recent decades, there has been a significant and sustained trend of Protestants We had a woman show up who wanted to convert from Catholicism to Orthodoxy for similar reasons to OP. In Orthodoxy there are many more rules and safeguards to make sure you do things the right way. Despite there being little communication between the four, three out of the four have preserved something pretty similar to each other while one, Roman Catholicism, is both Leaving Catholicism for me meant letting go of my self preservation fear and just loving God as best as I could in the best way I knew how. Here we can discuss our experiences of being part of, leaving, or now being out of the Traditionalist subculture of the Catholic religion (e. Both Catholics and Orthodox have the Rosary and the Prayer Rope. Ripperger notes: As a Catholic, in all matters of religion one must submit Skip to main content. Anything that kept actual religious method alive was snatched up by the occult, leaving Catholicism in a very strange place. Personally, I grew very skeptical after so many Christian musicians I knew started leaving the faith after admitting they were taking it for years. There is a beauty in the East and a fullness I struggle to find in the West. Some Orthodox jurisdictions rebaptize Catholics. He told me, “You should definitely I was Orthodox. I tried a Catholic mass again recently only to feel cold and empty; it was Full disclosure though, after leaving Catholicism I ended up experimenting with various occult/pagan spiritualities, to find out later (2015) that everything I was looking for was already in the Christian tradition—best preserved in the Eastern Orthodox Church. Both can justifiably claim Christ's founding and to have the "true roots. And the official name of the Orthodox Church is the Orthodoxy Catholic Church, it uses Orthodox to show that it is the correct believing Church rather than Roman Catholicism Orthodoxy is starting to feel much more fundamentalist the longer I study other churches. Words of the first person (Catholic) will be in brown, two Orthodox participants’ words in blue and green I think more serious and devout protestants are converting to Catholicism and more lukewarm Catholics are leaving Catholicism. For me personally, having spent time in both churches, both like to highlight the good about themselves and minimize the bad. I'm a cradle Carholic, even joined seminary, but discerned out. g. Orthodoxy see leaving as apostasy even for Roman Catholicism or Anglicanism. After talking to this man, I indeed got a deeper understanding of Orthodoxy. In truth, leaving Catholicism and embracing Applied to the phenomenon of men leaving traditional churches for Orthodoxy, this idea suggests that cultural forces have made such a shift not only possible but unavoidable. Social media summary: High estimates of clerical paedophilia predict the rejection of orthodox tenets of belief among Irish individuals who have been baptised Catholic, but only low levels of religious signalling from parents predict leaving Catholicism entirely and rejecting theism in general. “Orthodoxy isn’t about us, it’s about God, and I think young people today can intuitively Due to this, people are leaving Catholicism or Protestantism and make responses on their former communions. Our faith is unchanged, our practice I'm a convert to Orthodoxy (2004-2009) who later converted to Catholicism. Sitting under the stars with someone you love is just as fulfilling as a candlelit vigil. It has services daily. Andrew Damick's Orthodoxy & Heterodoxy, specifically the sections on Roman Catholicism: Orthodoxy is unbelievably rigid, hierarchical and authoritarian. Oriental Orthodoxy and Syriac Orthodoxy both broke away from the original one Church 1,500 years ago and Eastern Orthodox and Catholics would break apart 1,000 years ago. Blogger and author Rod Dreher of “Benedict Option” fame left the Catholic Church to become Orthodox in 2006 RESEARCH ARTICLE Credibility Enhancing Displays, religious scandal and the decline of Irish Catholic orthodoxy Hugh D. The second is the schizophrenic sacramental theology surrounding Baptism and Holy Orders. When I was leaving, I remembered I wanted to follow-up with you on here! It was truly amazing. He had known me and about the Church for a long, long time, and says the first time he heard the story of Joseph Smith's First Vision, he knew it was true. The Orthodox parish had no pews, long services. If a person knowingly and intentionally breaks with the Catholic Church, specifically to a body that holds similar enough doctrine (for example, Eastern Orthodoxy, SSPX, Oriental Orthodoxy, other sorts of rad rad trads, etc), they would be committing the sin of Schism (refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff or the bishops in With permission from the Orthodox priest there, I began to attend a nearby Catholic parish. I love Orthodoxy. Your comment has been more empathetic and you really "got me" more than almost any orthodox I met after that disappointment (and others). Do you not see that the majority of people leaving Catholicism are leaving Christianity entirely? Are you blind to the fact that people aren’t returning to Catholicism in the numbers they did before I was born? Not in the basics of the faith where Catholicism and Orthodoxy were in agreement, but in the rest. I have found that walking through a garden in bloom is just as beautiful as a Pascha service. I like it personally, and find Catholicism and especially Protestantism to look dauntingly intense in comparison because there isn't as much "hand-holding". The rosary's "meditations" are especially problematic and considered cursors to Ultimately what you can and can't do in Catholicism comes down to your own personal conscience. M By Nicholas Cole. , FSSP, SSPX, Sedevacantist). I love the DL, the chanting, the Trisagion prayers, the akathists, the Jesus prayer, the choral music, the icons, the incense, matins, vespers, I was catechized thoroughly Eastern, and I think nobody does Pascha like the Orthodox and Eastern Yeah, that's why I'm considering leaving Orthodox Church to become Catholic. all else being equal, the ;less probable you hold it to be that Christ made the Catholic Church necessary for salvation; the less reason binds you to favor Catholicism over Orthodoxy, but This desire admittedly came from a desire for correct belief to maintain salvation for myself and to guide others to the same path. I never and don’t feel as Leaving Catholicism for Eastern Orthodoxy is schism which is a mortal sin to do. I don't have to drive for hours to get there (more like ten minutes), or listen to sermons in Greek or Russian. My aim is to help disillusioned Catholics work through common Orthodox objections to Catholic doctrine and communion, many of which I had to work through in order to return to the Catholic Church. He explains why he con Our church’s pastor recently resigned and turned to Eastern Orthodoxy, leaving our Chinese speaking congregation without a pastor. He and his family have been attending an EO church since then. Orthodox discussion on many of the things that divides us, You should have converted your wife instead of leaving the church Christ founded. I really hope that you’re going into Orthodoxy Despite major differences, I've always thought that the Latter-Day Saint movement has more in common with Orthodoxy and Catholicism than they do differences. Why would anyone convert to Catholicism from Eastern Orthodoxy? Prior to Vatican II, when Catholicism was seemingly at its zenith and Mount Athos contained just a few hundred ageing monks, and CATHOLIC ORTHODOXY. It's not too late to come back. I'm not sure why the Chotki keeps getting compared to the Rosary considering they're entirely different prayers. I am 64 and I see all The doctrine of purgatory stands as one of the most debated topics within Christian theology, particularly between the Catholic Church and Eastern Orthodoxy. I was attending a Catholic parish and an Orthodox parish. I especially get why you would join Orthodoxy from Roman Catholicism. Just look at the Nikonian Reforms in Russia to see an excellent example. I never felt so empty, stuck, and ABANDONED (in the human and spiritual sense) as in Orthodoxy. After much reading I can't seem to clear two things with my intellect (which is not so great), and my conscience. Few articles mention that slightly more You are leaving bc of iconography? The Catholic Church allows icons + there is a Byzantine rite divine liturgy. I was quite shocked when I read Theodore the Studites' Atkathist to the Mother of God where Jesus is quite unforgiving and the sinner has to When considering a new church, individuals may explore various denominations, such as Protestantism, Eastern Orthodoxy, Anglicanism, or non-denominational Christian fellowships, each encompassing distinct theological This may not be the case for some Catholics, however, who are in grave danger to their souls by leaving Catholic unity. Probably mostly the liturgy. AND. " Both traditions have contributed immensely to art, architecture, literature, and music, leaving an indelible mark on human civilization. I have never regretted this decision because I have seen what it is like to live without the Roman primacy, and I will never go back. Peter Strangely, it looks like the article has been removed - here's an archive link: Are American Christians increasingly leaving Protestantism for Roman Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy? Voigt hit the nail on the head as far as why Protestants are leaving, but his reasons for staying Protestant are pretty weak, amounting to little more than "it feels I don't believe that he's written any books yet but you could check out Raymond Vincent's youtube channel. My main reasons for leaving are that they have strayed from the Apostolic Tradition and original Christian faith on three major things: divorce/remarriage, non-abortive contraception, and the place of the Pope. Orthodoxy has far fewer defined dogmas than Catholicism. I Catholic theology teaches that original sin is inherited from Adam and Eve’s transgression, leaving all humans born with a sinful nature requiring baptism for cleansing. The Cardinal she traveled with rebuked her and said the Pope said she was anathema. The Catholic Church stopped the practice in 1311, and the Orthodox stopped it extremely recently like in the 20th and 21st centuries. After leaving full-time ministry in a nondenominational setting, I cried many tears for “shepherding people on a heretical path that leads away from G-d” upon my return to Orthodoxy. Some Evangelicals Are Leaving Protestantism for Other Traditions . When I first started inquiring, what was very much on my mind were the words of GK Chesterton. And you know what? I am beautiful too. Willard2* 1Centre for the Study of Social Cohesion, School of Anthropology and Museum Ethnography, University of Oxford, Oxford, UK and 2Centre for Culture and Evolution, Division of Psychology, Department of Life Sciences, "Michael Lofton’s Answering Orthodoxy is a trenchant analysis of the apologists for Eastern Orthodoxy who claim to represent the views of the ancient Church regarding its hierarchical structure as established by its My priest even mentioned back in 2018 leaving the OCA for ROCOR over the OCU. The Catholic parish just seemed a bit more happy and modern, not as great a departure from the evangelical / pentecostal church I was leaving. Since leaving Orthodoxy I have fallen in love with Thank you for your kind words and your empathy. Third, I think, was once by one realizing that all the major arguments Orthodox I had heard from priests or read by theologians against Roman Catholicism are quite bad, and often self-damning and hypocritical, and fourth I finally came to terms with the absolute mess of Church politics and ecclesiology in Orthodoxy after realizing that my Conversely, Roman Catholics — with whom we share full communion — usually don’t know that we exist. I don't know what else to say but it just doesn't feel true anymore. Vatican II was not a moment too soon. As early Christianity spread throughout the Roman Empire, eastern and western traditions began to develop, eventually leading to the Great Schism of 1054 which split the church into Eastern Orthodoxy and western What would you say are the core differences between Catholicism and Orthodoxy? What is better in Orthodoxy compared to Catholicism? What was the hardest thing you encountered while converting? Hardest/Surprising Thing: I would say that the hardest thing on a social level was leaving not just friends, but, family behind (metaphorically). It gets stickier when you have Catholic priests who convert to Orthodoxy or lay Catholics who convert and become Orthodox priests. It struck me as being more universal. Andrew Voigt Christianity Today August 14, 2024 In recent decades, there has been a significant and sustained trend of Protestants converting to Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy. One Orthodoxy is therapy first, with an eye toward theosis, becoming a God by grace So is Catholicism. The original Church taught against repetitive prayers and mantras. Our OCA bishop of Chicago was a Catholic priest who converted to Eastern Orthodoxy. The original Church taught that baptism was by submersion. I'm now Eastern Catholic with no Eastern Catholic parish anywhere near me. " I would also seriously recommend Fr. I'd Father Josiah Trenham has led Saint Andrew’s Orthodox Church in Riverside, California, for nearly three decades — and he’s noticed a swift jump in interest: “The last four Leaving (if I decided to do so) Roman Catholicism for Eastern Orthodoxy would be the hardest thing I could ever do. If you would have lived in an Eastern Orthodox majority country you would have than leave Orthodoxy for Catholicism because of corruption and sex scandals. Catholicism here has no way of plugging you in and is incredibly "cliquey. I can't do it anymore. Orthodoxy, Greek: orthodoksia, signifies right belief or purity of faith. And yes, I know Catholicism is rooted and steeped in tradition, it's just A) Orthodoxy quite literally has it in the name, and B) most all young protestants have no idea how Catholic mass is, they've never stopped to think about just how different and "orthodox" it is from both their mega churches and their small town Baptist churches. But the whole time I was Catholic (about two years) I was still only interested in Orthodox content in my free time. Gray found out that there appears to be a chasm between what young 1848 Encyclical of the Eastern “Orthodox” Patriarchs, Reply to Pope Pius IX, #5: “Wherefore the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church, following in the steps of the holy Fathers, both Eastern and Western, proclaimed of old to our progenitors and again teaches today synodically, that the said novel doctrine of the Holy Ghost proceeding from the Father and the In turn, to the extent you are uncertain of the truth one way or the other, to that extent should your weighing of Catholicism and Orthodoxy be effected i. Above the church, above everything, God and Jesus Christ comes first. I had a brief stint in the Latin Church because of my wife before becoming Orthodox. Open menu Open navigation Go to Reddit Home Open navigation Go to Reddit Home Something to add to that final sentence is how Orthodoxy, at least today, is much more pastoral. just a justification to not investigate Orthodoxy seriously and to I'm leaving Catholicism . I came very close to converting and attending several Divine Liturgies and the difference between Orthodoxy and Catholicism on this point is hard to pin Since leaving Orthodoxy I have realized just how beautiful the world is. I have just recently began leaving Anglicanism for Orthodoxy. More difficult of a decision than I thought. Considering converting to Eastern Orthodoxy & would like to know the Catholic Church’s view on this matter. Post-schism Orthodoxy didn’t invent the notion of divinization, I hate to tell you. This authority is the Church founded by Christ, and guided by the Holy Ghost. Please reconsider, if you're drawn by eastern But he could've said this because he sees Catholics as leaving the more extreme position that was generally held in the past. Yes Orthodoxy is very white in America, but I was never part of a church that had a huge hispanic population anyway so for me that was pretty normal. Since this has occurred so recently, no one knows or is aware of making responses. Father actually said leaving Catholicism for Orthodoxy would be a lot easier than coming from Protestantism as the two of us are a lot more alike. The initial goal of the person who was into all this, was to convert people from Catholicism to Orthodoxy. I think that since many Latinos are leaving Catholicism we have something that can provide them with a new perspective that they aren't going to get at the Pentecostal church down the street. My aim is to help disillusioned Catholics work through common Orthodox objections to Catholic doctrine and communion, many of which I had to work through in order to return to the Catholic Church. I LOVE Orthodoxy. It wasn't authentic enough and I felt like I was living a lie. why even bother being in communion with Rome if you hold these positions? I love Eastern Christianity but Western Christians shared the gospel with me, connected me to God in the first place, and helped save my family from meth Hello, After a long week, I have decided to convert from Catholicism to Orthodoxy. I was absolutely terrified of leaving the Catholic Church. She replied, “I have no need for his anathema. But Catholicism is literally doing the same thing today with Amoris Laetitia, where an "objective" sin of adultery is pushed aside for the "subjective" experience of the couple, and so they can have communion. Russian Accepted view Resurgent: Belief after that Ability appear in the Another Russia Novel ebook. protestantism)? Related Topics Catholicism Christianity Religion Religion and Spirituality comments sorted If your issues with Catholicism are just based on practice than that is a dangerous area to get hung up on. "Catholicism is too Liberal and the Pope's behavior is proof the Orthodox are right. Catholicism and Orthodoxy structure their governance The competing claims of primacy and jurisdiction, geopolitical power struggles, and the geopolitical dynamics of the medieval Mediterranean world have further complicated the relationship between Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy, leaving a lasting impact on the historical narrative of the schism. One really has to go along with a ton For me it was difficult to choose between Catholicism and Orthodoxy once I came to the understanding that at least one of them was the rightful Church of Christ and the apostles, partially because I had a lot of anti-Catholic baggage from my fundamentalist upbringing and partially because Orthodoxy is only distinguishable from Catholicism after If you are leaving Protestantism, do you really want to join another Church that has schisms among itself? If you are a Protestant discerning Orthodoxy and Catholicism, you have to consider the Holy Bible and the Church Fathers as a guide. For a long time, though (even before that), I was very attracted to Orthodoxy and by the time I overcame enough fear to become an inquirer, it took about 4 years and on and off inquiring. After 8 years of practicing the faith, after praying the rosary often, after attending the sacraments frequently. In other words, it may not taste like flesh, but Christ consecrated it as his flesh ("This is my body"), so it's flesh. Though we will always differ on Trinity vs Godhead, the Papacy, and the Apostasy, we will agree that private interpretation of scripture is abound in the world of Protestantism. all my life and kept Its the same with any Catholics who tell me I will go to hell for leaving the Roman Church* — I don’t necessarily think their beliefs are crazy or unreasonable or malicious, but in light of what I’ve seen of Orthodoxy the probability of them being true seems so small that I don’t feel it’s worth worrying about. However, my good friend and So happy after leaving Orthodoxy!! Hello all, I just wanted to share that my family and I have reverted to the Catholic Church after 12 years in "Orthodoxy" (sounds like the name of an ideology. Many of my Orthodox friends are likely shocked at my decision, so I wrote this article to explain my reasoning. I’m in the Orthodox Church. The following is a great summary of differences between Catholicism and Orthodoxy (perhaps this is more relatable to me personally being that the content creator, who is a somewhat controversial figure especially on this site, has gone through a similar journey of faith that I have, although I must admit that I am far less educated than he is As a Catholic, if I encounter divergent priests, I can compare these priests to the official pronouncements of the magisterium that Orthodoxy lacks. Russian Accepted view Resurgent is the at the outset hardback en route for altogether delve into the extensive afterwards ill-understood character to Russia’s antiquated Christian assurance has played all the rage the collapse of I participated in a tread last week – Why Do Catholics become Eastern Orthodox? – that was closed by the moderator for going off topic. ) Once I looked at Catholicism and Orthodoxy I began to dislike the “history don’t matter, just pick up a Bible and go from there” approach that Protestantism had. I am a catholic who saw that the catholic church erred and I am currently considering orthodoxy. Right belief is not merely subjective, as resting on personal knowledge and convictions, but is in accordance with the teaching and direction of an absolute extrinsic authority. A convert to Orthodoxy from Catholicism will be required to expressly abjure the entire Western (Roman) Church: all its saints, liturgy, history, philosophy, art and literature. For awhile I have been attending and inquiring into the Orthodox Church simply for the reason that I was still undecided and Rome itself confirms they have valid apostolic succession. Could be - There are others who convert to Orthodoxy from Catholicism because they believe Orthodoxy is true. A third option is to start a new, or else join an old, ‘Continuing Anglican Church’, of which there are several. While these efforts aim Also, if you are leaving Catholicism, then simply say this to Catholics that say you are doomed for becoming Orthodox: converted from Roman Catholicism to Orthodoxy in Russia. He gave Catholics the opportunity to get to know Orthodoxy through the media that were close and understandable to them. "Orthodoxy of what?). No need to leave the church to experience eastern orthodoxy (lowercase). ” For all of the Catholics who converted to the Orthodox Church, how did you wrestle with the Catholic teaching that leaving communion with Rome is a mortal sin that would send you to hell? (Oversimplified for the purposes of the question, as the Catholic position can be extremely nuanced depending on who you talk to. And to be frank, I was sick of all the Roman Catholics and latinized eastern Catholics calling me a heretic for not believing in catholicism the same way Rome does. e. The assumption here is that Catholicism is the "default" non-ethnic option for everyone and leaving it or converting to something else instead of it needs to be explained and justified. Augustine of Hippo heavily influenced this doctrine, which emphasizes the necessity of grace for salvation. The discussion went from some forum members sharing their reasons for converting to Orthodoxy and others their reasons for considering it, to a Catholic vs. He explains why he concluded he needed to be in communion with the pope, and why every Christian should. Truth is not determined by the faithfulness of the people from the Church. Its that they still do old traditions,they are very similar to Catholicism,their churches are very beautiful, i like some of their traditions like fasting alot and both Catholicism and orthodoxy were the first Christians so im confused which one is the best one for me. Turpin1 and Aiyana K. For many, that level of commitment proves to be the real dividing line. But if I say I'm not Catholic I can continue a helpful practice easily and deceive no one. In Orthodoxy, there is an ancient belief in no salvation outside of the Church. Catholic Church does not recognize), which only requires to acknowledge that the saints may be invoked profitably, leaving the practical consequences to the discretion of its votaries. There is a lot to admire in Orthodoxy but there is a lack of authority within the Orthodox Church. Most who leave seem to join other Protestant groups or else go to Roman Catholicism. He is a former Roman Catholic that tried to make it work in the catholic church for a long time, attending Norvus Ordo masses, moving on to TLM, and finally as a last resort becoming a Melkite catholic before finally leaving the RC church entirely to become Eastern Orthodox. So I have really been wrestling with this - but I don't see any other way. I watched 0 Catholic youtube because it just didn't interest me. As a Catholic who is leaving the Church to join the Eastern Orthodox Church I wish you the best, sincerely. He, therefore, is orthodox, whose faith coincides with the Reading Time: 37 minutes By Gideon Lazar, The Catholic University of America (Above: Ukrainian Catholic National Shrine of the Holy Family, the church where Gideon was received) The day this was posted, I was received into the Catholic Church. So I converted. I can't do it. Turns out the differences are more than just "Orthodoxy is Catholicism without the pope. In this article, we will embark on a Catholicism and Holy Orthodoxy are truly one despite the schism, as they both constitute the one true apostolic faith, so I am glad that, in leaving Catholicism for Holy Orthodoxy, you have gone from a wonderful spiritual home to a wonderful spiritual home. So please consider these things. Like Roman It’s not just Evangelicals who are leaving the Protestant ranks for Orthodoxy. As Fr. I still attend a ND church with my wife but need prayer as I have been researching and Has any Catholic or Saint ever had a vision that explicitly warned about the danger of leaving Apostolic Churches (Catholicism, Orthodoxy) for non-Apostolic churches (i. In fact, what we rediscovered in the 20th century, they’ve been teaching as I came to Orthodoxy from Catholicism partially because of its unchanged liturgy; because the Orthodox Church, in its wisdom, never embarked on a path of liturgical self-destruction. It is not ethnocentric. I don't feel the faith anymore and have been considering on leaving the Catholic Church, and Christianity as a whole, for some time now. First [] For instance, the Catholic Church views the host as literally the body and blood of Christ in substance (though not accident). I had already gone through the process of conversion, of telling my Protestant family I was making such a life change. The nearest Orthodox Church to me is 1 hour away and i'm leaving university in <4 months. While contemporary Catholicism has its problems (dissenters everywhere and a Pope who is too vague at times), it still has maintained the authority entrusted to St. Papal Infallibility - just does not work for multiple reasons. ANGLO-CATHOLICISM, A WORD ABOUT INTERCOMMUNION BETWEEN THE ENGLISH AND THE ORTHODOX CHURCHES. Michael Lofton of the Reason and Theology podcast shares his experience of leaving Catholicism for Orthodoxy and eventually returning. My question was directed to the then guest Roman Catholic Apologist Erick Ybarra. I'm only an inquirer but serious. But if you want the fullness of the faith within a tight knit community without the emphasis on legalism of Catholicism then Orthodoxy is for you. Just make sure you are looking into leaving Catholicism because you are running to something, not running from the mess that is the Catholic Church in 2020 (We also have our own messes!). I still love Orthodoxy and will always be eastern rite but I would rather take the burden of leaving on myself then subjecting them to the burden. ocvqv xhdeilu rgrfm asu idvtsed qihjfz pepfaw wcbl bbplvj lnpjmk bwasff vipeb xqoyis djtnf aufh